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IT Band Pain is Knee Pain, Not Hip Pain

Pain in the hip and thigh is something else, I promise

Paul Ingraham • 10m read

Can hip pain be “IT band syndrome”? Does IT band pain ever affect the hip? This a chronic point of confusion about iliotibial band syndrome (ITBS) — where exactly does it actually hurt? Many professionals incorrectly diagnose hip and thigh pain as ITBS. There is no such thing as non-knee ITBS. By definition,1 ITBS occurs only on the side of the knee. More specifically:

Illustrated diagram of the iliotibial band, a shallow dissection of the hip, thigh and knee, showing a broad white strap of tissue down the side of the thigh labelled “iliotibial band” and red highlight on the side of the knee labelled “site of IT band syndrome.”

The condition is caused by the irritation of tissues around that anatomy. Pain anywhere else — like the thigh and hip — is something else. I promise. I’m not making this up.2 I’ll have more to say about diagnosing IT band pain below, but first…

So what does cause hip pain?

Nothing is mistakenly called ITBS more often than hip and thigh pain, which can be just as stubborn and baffling as ITBS. Calling it ITBS implies that it has something to do with the IT band, when in fact this kind of pain has many and likely overlapping causes.3

Obviously there are a lot of possible causes of hip pain, but greater trochanteric pain syndrome (GTPS) is the most useful and accepted label for unexplained hip-o-centric pain: aching with an epicentre around the large bump of bone on the side of the hip, the greater trochanter of the femur. While it is usually experienced as “mainly” hip pain, it routinely involves widespread, diffuse pain throughout the entire region and into the thigh.

Arthritis?

One of the most common assumptions about hip pain is that it must be arthritis. But concern about arthritis is rarely justified: most people with signs of arthritis (on X-ray) do not have any pain, and most people who have hip pain do not have arthritis.5 Obviously hip arthritis is a thing, but rarely under the age of 50, and rarely in the very active runners who most often get ITBS.

And yet! When hip pain does happen in someone who might also get ITBS, confusion is possible. Deep hip joint pain is routinely felt all over the hip and buttocks, and can easily be confused with GTPS. A hollering hip joint can send pain deep into the thigh as well, especially the lateral thigh all the way down to the knee (and even lower), which also makes it surprisingly likely to be mistaken for IT band syndrome.4 Referred pain is always good for some diagnostic hijinks.

Muscle pain? Probably a lot of that

The most common cause of hip pain, especially in younger patients, is probably just the aching and stiffness associated with “muscle knots,” sore spots known as trigger points (TrPs).6 The TrPs themselves are usually in the hips, but the pain often spreads (“refers”) downwards into the thigh.7 A common and easy example of this phenomenon is Perfect Spot #6: the TrP is in the upper hip, but the pain spreads into the back, buttocks, and thigh. Another important example is the common trigger point in the tensor fasciae latae muscle.8

Hip muscle pain is not only a common problem in general — with or without ITBS — but also potentially implicated in ITBS. For instance, grouchy hip muscles that control the tension on the IT band might be a minor factor causing ITBS. Many ITBS patients seem to experience significant hip discomfort in addition to their strong lateral knee pain. Treating the hip pain may or may not have any effect on ITBS, but is probably worthwhile in itself.

If you think that you might have hip muscle pain, my muscle pain tutorial should be your next stop.

Of pain sources in the leg itself, the big quadriceps trigger point in the vastus lateralis — right under the IT band — is a common doozy, Perfect Spot #8. That pain tends to dominate the lower end of the thigh.

What’s in the name of a syndrome?

IT band syndrome is a “syndrome” because the pain is unexplained. We don’t know the specific mechanism, so we don’t give it a name that implies a specific cause (like “tendinitis,” for instance).

All syndromes are simply descriptions of an unexplained but distinctive pattern of symptoms. Most syndromes involve patterns of symptoms with a lot of variation, but the pattern of ITBS is more simple and specific: pain on the side of the knee, related to overuse, notably aggravated by descending stairs and slopes. It’s only unexplained insofar as no one has actually figured exactly what tissue gets into trouble.9)

Other pain locations and types that are not IT band syndrome

Pain on any other part of the thigh or hip is the most common kind of pain mistakenly attributed to ITBS, but it is definitely something else — even if it is partially related to the iliotibial band, it’s still not “IT band syndrome.” Greater trochanteric pain syndrome is the appropriate label for most unexplained hip and thigh pain. More about GTPS below.

The other big red herring is anterior knee pain: patellofemoral syndrome, the other common kind of runner’s knee, is a more imprecisely defined condition than ITBS. More on this one below as well.

Posterior knee pain has several possible causes, like popliteal artery entrapment syndrome (PAES), popliteal or biceps femoris tendinopathy.

Knee pain that is hard to locate — diffuse pain — is definitely something else. ITBS is not hard to locate! Diffuse knee pain may be arthritic in character, related to a spinal issue, a stress frature, or meniscal damage. Diffuse pain is tricky to diagnose, but it’s not ITBS.

Another source of lateral knee pain is a lateral meniscal tear. It’s usually traumatic, with pain a little too low and too deep for ITBS, and usually accompanied by other signs and symptoms like swelling, locking, clicking, and clunking.

What about knee pain that includes the side of the knee?

Pain that includes the side of the knee, but has no clear epicentre there, is probably something, but not ITBS. Once again: no prominent hot-spot on the lateral knee, no ITBS diagnosis! For instance, a stress fracture of the lateral epicondyle of the femur might cause some lateral knee pain in addition to plenty of diffuse, deep pain, but the lateral pain component wouldn’t be vivid, specific, and independent enough for an ITBS diagnosis.

Pain in other locations can also occur with ITBS, of course. There’s nothing about ITBS that eliminates the possibility of other painful conditions in the knee and nearby. They might even be a little bit related. But these other pains in other locations are not symptoms of iliotibial band syndrome itself.

Patellofemoral pain syndrome (PFPS): mostly about anterior pain, not lateral

Which condition is “runner’s knee” — ITBS or PFPS? Trick question: they both are. They are constantly confused because they are both common repetitive strain injuries of the knee, causing pain in locations that are right beside each other. But while ITBS causes focal pain on the side of the knee, PFPS is all about more diffuse pain on the front of the knee.

Diagram of the knee showing IT band syndrome on the side of the knee, and patellofemoral pain syndrome on the anteriorof the knee.

Where’s the pain?

IT band syndrome dominates the side of the knee. Patellofemoral pain is more variable, but usually more in front.

Proximal tibiofibular joint pain: a little lower

When injured, this obscure joint — not quite part of the knee — does cause “lateral knee pain” and is often misdiagnosed as the far more notorious ITBS. However, the pain location is distinctly below the knee joint, and usually begins with an obvious trauma (dislocation and sprain). For more information, see The Tibiofibular Joint and Knee Pain.

Lots more reading about IT band syndrome

These are all of the free excepts from my book about IT band syndrome available on PainScience.com. It’s a lot, but it’s only about 20% of the entire book.

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About Paul Ingraham

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I am a science writer in Vancouver, Canada. I was a Registered Massage Therapist for a decade and the assistant editor of ScienceBasedMedicine.org for several years. I’ve had many injuries as a runner and ultimate player, and I’ve been a chronic pain patient myself since 2015. Full bio. See you on Facebook or Twitter., or subscribe:

What’s new in this article?

May 20, 2023 — Added information about hip joint pain mimicking other kinds of hip and thigh pain.

2019 — Heavily revised with a much stronger focus on differential diagnosis. I think the perspective makes the article much more useful.

2017 — Science update — Cited evidence of poor correlation between hip pain and radiographic signs of arthritis (Kim et al).

2017 — Miscellaneous minor improvements. Very careful clarification of the symptom location. Migrated some details to footnotes, and added some details specifically for footnotes.

2010 — Publication.

Notes

  1. There’s nothing formal or authoritative I can cite to support this position; there is no international standards organization defining minor musculoskeletal injuries; IT band syndrome isn’t even in the Merck Manual (a famous medical dictionary) or the Medline/Merrian Webster medical dictionary. All obscure definitions are somewhat arbitrary and a product of social concensus, and so my position is based on the definition used in most academic writing and research on the topic. My strong impression after many years of writing about ITBS is that discussions and articles that conflate hip and proximal thigh pain with knee pain are mostly amateurish, with ignorance of the condition prominently on display.
  2. I am not making up the definition of IT band syndrome … or am I? I probably am influencing it these days! Given the prominence of PainScience.com, I may now be in a position to actually prescribe the definition, rather than to just describe what I believe it to be (which is all it was for years). Good times!
  3. Why would anyone call hip pain ITBS? Two reasons:

    1. the IT band is long and it is part of the hip as well as the knee
    2. hip pain can spread well down the thigh, as far as the knee, sometimes even beyond
  4. Lesher JM, Dreyfuss P, Hager N, Kaplan M, Furman M. Hip joint pain referral patterns: a descriptive study. Pain Med. 2008;9(1):22–5. PubMed 18254763 ❐

    Conventional wisdom says hip joint pain usually refers to the groin and thigh, and both of these are common (each seen in about half of patients)… but investigating this phenomenon Lesher et al. found that buttock pain is even more common at 70%, and even lower leg pain is also surprisingly common at 20%.

    Foot? 6%! Imagine that one. “Doctor, my foot hurts.” “Hmm, could be hip trouble…”

    Knee? 2%?

    So there is real potential to mistake hip arthritis for other issues, especially sciatica and greater trochanteric pain syndrome.

    Location Percentage of Patients
    Buttock 71
    Thigh: 57
     Anterior 27
     Lateral 27
     Posterior 24
     Medial 16
    Groin 55
    Leg 16
     Lateral 8
     Posterior 8
     Anterior 4
     Medial 2
    Foot 6
    Knee 2
  5. Kim C, Nevitt MC, Niu J, et al. Association of hip pain with radiographic evidence of hip osteoarthritis: diagnostic test study. BMJ. 2015;351:h5983. PubMed 26631296 ❐ PainSci Bibliography 53332 ❐

    This analysis of thousands of patients confirmed a jarring disconnect between signs of arthritis on hip x-rays and hip pain: “Hip pain was not present in many hips with radiographic osteoarthritis, and many hips with pain did not show radiographic hip osteoarthritis.” What they mean by “many” is “practically all”: roughly 80% of patients with signs of arthritis had no pain, and at least 85% of patients with hip pain had no sign of arthritis! These numbers held up even at the extremes — most older patients with a high suspicion of hip arthritis did not in fact have arthritis that could be diagnosed with an x-ray.

  6. This assertion is based primarily on my decade of clinical experience as a massage therapist, seeing many cases of hip pain attributed to things like bursitis or arthritis that were readily resolved with a little massage. It’s also just all that’s left after a relatively simple process of elimination: many of the “usual suspects” in the hip have distinctive clinical characteristics that simply aren’t present in most cases. And finally it’s based on my confidence that trigger points are a genuine ubiquitous clinical phenomenon, which no one disputes, even if their nature is controversial: see The Trigger Point Identity Crisis.
  7. The brain is somewhat inept at precisely locating internal pain and sometimes experiences pain in a broad area around or near the cause. This is exactly the same phenomenon as heart attack pain felt mainly in the arm: the brain literally can’t figure out where the pain is coming from. Patterns of referral from the musculoskeletal system are somewhat predictable, and most referred pain spreads away from the centre and the head (laterally, distally). By contrast, visceral referral is much more erratic. Notably, referred pain from the neck probably goes “up,” causing headaches.

    This phenomenon is probably one reason the IT band gets blamed for hip pain. The referred pain from the hip simply spread down the side of the thigh, where the IT band happens to be.

  8. Which is harder to describe and self-treat. It is about the size of a large pickle and “hangs” straight down from the side of the prominent bump of bone on the front of the hip, the anterior superior iliac spine.
  9. For instance, it’s probably not “friction” of the IT band, a kind of tendinitis, as implied by the common term “IT band friction syndrome.” See Is IT Band Tendinitis Really a Tendinitis?

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